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Sir Aeomund wrote:possible minor gain by overthrowing the King?
Sir Ewen wrote:1. The answer for Prehil is obvious: he would get to be king himself after Orsin dies.
Sir Ewen wrote:2. Meden, on the other hand, may be playing a more devious game, where he sees the "superior" lineage of clan Curo coming out on top in the wake of the chaos of overthrowing Haldan's branch of clan Elendsa. The fact that he pointed out his father's feelings about their lineage to Ewen might have betrayed the fact that this issue is prominent in his mind at this time. But he needs an Elendsa heir to justify overthrowing Haldan in the first place, as proposing the toppling of the entire dynasty is not going to fly right now.
Sir Ewen wrote:3. While we perhaps assume Prehil is the man we have come to know in his apparent presentation, we can't discount the possibility that he, not Meden, is the instigator behind this, and is far more conniving than his bluff exterior suggests.
Sir Ewen wrote:4. I doubt Meden would support a Firith coup without exacting major concessions.
Sir Ewen wrote:That is a useful distinction, perhaps, but the present scheme lies much closer to treason than the historical example you cite, no?
Sir Ewen wrote:Brandis having already reached his majority, a situation where Firith ruled as a regent for him would be rather irregular, I should think, and not at all what Meden intends.
Sir Ewen wrote:Arguing from historical example (see Roses, War of the), this sort of situation usually devolves into a bloodbath.
Sir Ewen wrote:Is there anything in the case of Kaldor which mitigates this likely outcome? Lack of sufficient support for Brandis, I suppose.
Sir Ewen wrote:If Balim forsakes him, then perhaps a change of succession could avoid significant bloodshed (although I am not suggesting that other peers (Caldeth?) might see it in their interest to thwart Firith and those behind him).
Sir Ewen wrote:But then what do you do with Brandis? The block? Exile, with a threat of him returning with a foreign army? (Hmmm...)
Sir Ewen wrote:At any rate, turmoil or open war within Kaldor would generally be to our advantage, insomuch as it weakens the kingdom, enhances our power, and creates opportunities to exploit things with a view toward overthrow. And bloodshed would be fun. As long as we keep our heads, that is.
Sir Aeomund wrote:The tourney is a good venue to plot with and meet others without raising suspicion.
Sir Ewen wrote:Or, perhaps even better, a really nasty, debilitating civil war over the succession. Maybe we should consider which factors have prevented previous succession crises in the past from devolving into warfare, and look into the possibility of undermining or circumventing them this time around.
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